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Perry Cobb and Darby Tillis were arrested in Chicago in
1977. They were charged with the armed robbery and murder
of Melvin Kanter and Charles Guccion at a North Side hot-dog
stand. Cobb and Tillis would be tried a total of five times,
more than any other persons in U.S. judicial history, and
would serve nine years in prison, four of those on Death Row.
In their fifth trial in 1987 both men would be exonerated
and released. Earlier this winter we got a chance to hear
from Perry Cobb and offer some of his thoughts and memories
to you. He begins on the day of the arrest.
Things were going well. I was a professional entertainer in
Chicago and my contract was up with the Creations, formerly
known as the Debtones. I had been working with Minnie Ripperton,
Sydney Barns, and Lou Barns, along with a fabulous drummer,
Fufu. Dorothy Layne, with the Rolls Royce, was also connected
with us. I had just completed a book of songs, the arrangements
were thereeverything. All that was left was recording
them.
I remember what I was doing the day I was arrested. I was
waiting for Minnie Rippington and Camilla Lang to pick me
up at the hotel where I was staying. They were visiting from
California, and we were going to drive to the West Coast together.
I like scenery and the outdoors, so I was looking forward
to this.
On that particular day, I was taking a bath when there was
a knock on the door. I answered as loud as I could but they
didnt seem to hear me. They knock again, so I put on
my terry-cloth towel and go for the door. The next thing I
know, men are rushing in with guns like Ive never seen
in my life. As a child, I had always been a fan of Westerns;
I liked Westerns and action movies. I didnt particularly
care for love or comedy or scenes of that nature. Well, these
men had more weapons drawn than I had ever seen.
I dove on the bed trying to get away from them, and the next
thing I know, I have guns not just around my head but up against
my head. I was ordered to get up off the bed, then snatched
up and pushed out into the hall. They ripped my towel off
so I was standing there totally naked. One of the men had
his weapon at the base of my skull. I heard him click the
hammer backa very frightening sound. He was saying,
You did it, you n-.
Did what? What did I do? No one would answer.
They just told me to be quiet, not to make any noise.
So I started making as much noise as I could to bring attention
to what was happening. Doors opened and neighbors began to
come into the hall. I asked them to please follow these men
who said they were policemen. There were no uniforms; these
were all guys in plainclothes. I wanted to be followed. They
said they were taking me to the police station, but they wouldnt
tell me why. They just kept saying that I did it. It was awful.
This policeman with the gun at the back of my head pulled
it down and holstered it. They brought me some pantsthey
didnt allow me to put on any underwear. Then they pulled
a shirt out, and when I put it on, they put on the handcuffs.
I had some money on the lamp table along with a watch and
a ring. The watch had been sold to me by Jim Smith, who later
turned out to be one of the states witnesses against
me. At the time I didnt know anything about that, other
than the fact that Id bought a watch from him.
At the police station they interrogated me but wouldnt
tell me what I was being locked up for. They had typed up
some papers that they wanted me to sign. The papers stated
that I had seen three guys going into this certain restaurant
late at night and I could identify these men. They offered
me money to do this. I wouldnt because I hadnt
seen anyone. And I didnt hang out on the streets; I
was not a drinker or a drugger.
I had a lot of fun going to dances and parties when I was
a kid. But since my livelihood was entertainment, I had no
reason to want to pursue that life other than the fact that
I was working. Not that I am a goody-two-shoes. I was involved
with different discrepancies as a child growing up; I made
mistakes. But I was not the person to go around robbing and
killing people.
At the police station there was this man in the next room
calling out, Fifi! Fifi! A few people called me
that so I answered, Who is that? He answered,
This is Frenchie. I knew a man by the name of
Frenchie who was a good artist. He said, They got us
locked up for the same thing.
I thought, How does he know why Im here? I dont
know why Im here myself. Frenchie told me we were
locked up for supposedly having robbed and killed two people
in this restaurant on the North Side. I told him that they
had offered me money to sign papers saying I had seen three
other guys go in there and come out. He said, They didnt
offer me any money. Then they separated us.
The interrogators tried to break me down. They told me that
Frenchie said he had seen me do it. Next they came back with,
This watch we found in your room belonged to one of
the victims. Where did you get it? I didnt believe
them so I wouldnt tell them anything. They left me handcuffed
to the radiators and the handcuffs got extremely hot.
Later, I told my attorney where I got that watch and why I
wouldnt tell the police. I couldnt trust them
the way they had treated me.
Cook County
Finally they took us over to Cook County Jail. I believe that
it was a day or two later that this fellow named Darby showed
up. He told me, I got the same case as you got.
Somehow, they had hooked me up with these two people, Darby
Tillis and Earl Grant [Frenchie]. We werent friends.
We werent associates. We had nothing in common except
that we were human beings. Darby is a black man and I am a
black man. Earl Grant is a white man. Not that the color made
a difference, but the fact of the matter is that we were almost
strangers. I had not seen either of them more than a couple
of times in my life.
Things were tense between us three in County. No one of us
knew if the other two were guilty and going to turn states
evidence. They wound up offering us all money at different
times to testify that the other two were involved. None of
us would do it. The thing that probably saved us was that
we all had similar morals and principles and none of us would
agree to turn on the others.
Eventually they severed us from Earl Grant, the white boy,
and the state made it a black-on-white crime with Darby Tillis
and me as the robbers.
Through out the five trials the states case against
Cobb and Tillis stood on three points: 1) A watch originally
belonging to one of the victims was found in Cobbs possession:
Perry Cobb states he bought this watch from the boyfriend
of the states witness, Jane Doe; 2) The testimony of
Doe, who under a grant of immunity testified that she had
been the driver for Cobb and Tillis; 3) The evolving testimony
of a single eyewitness, Arthur Sheilds, who testified
at the first trial that he didnt see the faces
too wellnot well enough to walk up and say, Hes
the man. At the second trial, the eyewitness was more
confident, testifying, They look like them. Finally,
at the third trial, the eyewitness testified, I know
these are the faces I saw.
The First Trial
They took us over to Thirteenth and Michigan for the first
trial. The states star witness was Jane Doe. Her story
was that we had ridden around with her for hours in her car,
then she had dropped us off to rob these two gentlemen. She
testified that we said there would be a lot of money there.
Supposedly she had met us through her boyfriend, Jim Smith.
This was the same guy who sold me the watch that linked me
to the murders. I only knew him by JS. He was supposed to
have introduced Darby Tillis and me. Doe said she took us
to the place to rob it, and she waited while we supposedly
robbed these two older men and killed them. She said we forced
her into it: that I pulled her hair and called her names and
threatened her with guns and all this crazy stuff.
Her story didnt make sense. She meets these two strangers
and she rides them around in her automobile for two and three
hours while theyre planning to murder someone and rob
them. They then leave her to go and commit a crime, and shes
stays there and waits while they do it, then lets these murdering
strangers back in the car. Who would do that? But this is
what she said.
The state brought in its other witness, Arthur Sheilds. He
testified that we were the ones he had seen. But on cross-examination
he stated that he had never said that we were the men, but
that we looked like the men. That first trial turned out to
be a hung jury: eleven to one, eleven in favor of conviction.
The one holdout was a black man from Mississippi.
The Second Trial
While we were waiting for the second trial, they brought Earl
Grant in. He had bruises and cuts. When we talked to him,
he told us they had worked him over trying to get him to say
Darby and I did this thing. They wanted him to testify against
us. He wouldnt do it so they brought him over and threw
him back in with us. They told him he was going be executed
right along with us. He still refused to cooperate with them,
period.
The second trial was again held at Thirteenth and Michigan.
When the trial started, there in the spectators section
sat the black juror from our first trial, and he had his family
with him. The states attorney looked around and saw
him and stopped the trial. They dismissed the jury, had them
go into another room. Then they brought this man up and asked
him why was he in the courtroom. He told them that he had
been a juror on the first trial and that hed become
interested in the case. He wanted his family to witness this
because hed never seen anything like it in his life.
They accused this man of trying to communicate with the new
jury and forced him to leave.
In this trial, Arthur Sheilds testified for the state that
at there was a great difference in height in the two men he
had seen. One man was approximately 6 feet 11 inches and the
other guy was about 5 feet 8 inches or 5 feet 9 inches. The
taller man had a full beard. I had been picked out as the
taller man. At this time I didnt have much facial hair;
I couldnt grow a beard like that. I just had a little
mustache and goatee.
Addressing the 6 feet 11 inch, 5 feet 8 inch descriptions,
which meant over a foot difference in the heights of the killers,
our attorney had us take off our shoes and stand. There was
maybe an inch and a half difference between Darby Tilliss
height and mine. They had grabbed two men that were relatively
the same height and neither of us was close to 6 feet 11 inches.
During this whole nightmare, Darby and I were suspicious of
each other. I was not certain whether he had done it or not,
but I knew for a fact that it wasnt me. And I could
understand how he was unsure of me because I was known to
fight in jail and such. But when we stood there with this
man saying 6 feet 11 inches and 5 feet 9 inches, and here
we were both about the same height, he looked at me and we
knew they were lying about both of us.
Next the fingerprint evidence came out: fingerprints that
they got off the cash register, and someplace in the wall
where money had been hidden, and on the counter. The fingerprints
did not match either of us. No match on the prints and the
height difference didnt fit, but the prosecutors still
went on. It didnt matter to them. They had a black-on-white
crime and they were stuck on doing it to Darby Tillis and
me. So we had another hung jury.
What did they do? They kept going. They transferred our case
to Twenty-sixth and California to Judge Joe Maloney. At the
third trial all evidence from the first two trials and all
testimonies were given via transcripts to Judge Maloney, so
he was quite familiar with the case. He had to have seen that
there were a lot of inconsistencies in the first two trials.
On that third trial there was an all-white jury. They faced
two black men charged with robbing and killing two old white
gentlemen. A lot of the public had no sympathy for two black
men charged with things of this nature. Now, I can understand
that. I dont care what color you are, if evidence has
shown that you did something of that nature, that cruel, to
anyone, I dont care if you are green, white, yellow,
or the last colored person in the worldif you did something
like that you should pay for it. But I knew that Darby and
I were innocent.
The Third Trial
It turns out that Sheilds, the eyewitness, who in the earlier
trials said we might be the men in the earlier trials, had
been looking through extra thick bifocals from one store window
into another store window. Now imagine the problem: its
dark outside, and the person has bifocals on and is looking
from one window into another window forty-five feet away.
Im a dark complexioned man and so is Darby Tillis; how
could this person accurately distinguish who those men were?
Yet, in this trial he changed his testimony. He stated that
he had never said we looked like the men, but rather that
he knew we were the men. They brought back the transcripts
of the first two trials in which he testified that there was
a large height difference in the two men. He changed his mind
on that also. This witness, had at one time, said in court
that all blacks looked alike to him, and then had tried to
take those words back. The court allowed these things to happen.
They ignored the fingerprints; the lack of fingerprints didnt
matter anymore. They bought this mans new certainty
and Does story about driving us to the place. They found
us guilty and sentenced us to death.
So in 79, after three trials, they took us to Statesville,
to Death Row. We went through some really rough stuff there,
especially those of us on Death Row that were doing law work,
helping other prisoners with their cases. Things like finding
ground-up glass in our food.
Soon after that, the whole Statesville Death Row was transferred
to Menard. The guys that worked there on Death Row called
us mummies. They didnt call us by the number or the
name; they just called us mummies. Like that mummy is
in cell 8, or the mummies in cell 5 and cell 4
have been communicating. This is how they referred to
us. We were no longer human beings. I didnt like it,
period. I had a name. I let them know that none of their rules
and regulations applied to me because these rules were for
a person who was guilty and I had committed no crime.
They thought I was crazy because I would not comply. And I
held to that all the time I was locked up. They decided I
just didnt have any sense. But it wasnt that.
It was the fact that I was there for something I didnt
do, and I was not going to comply because I didnt belong
there.
At Menard there were problems. There was an inquiry where
they found one of the guards was hooked up with the Klansmen.
Another guard was suspended for providing white boys with
knives because they were going to have some kind of black-and-white
war. These are factual things that are on record. What I didnt
understand is why they would allow such men to work Death
Row.
In working on our appeal we needed certain law books. These
books were the lifeline to our appeals. So we filed a petition
to get a librarian who would distribute the books without
favoritism. We had to have that stuff to educate ourselves,
to fight to show our innocence Thats the type of person
I am today. I dont have any problem asking questions.
I feel good when Im learning. I havent met any
man or woman that knows everything. If all the men and women
on earth put what they knew together they still could not
make one grain of sand or one blade of grass.
Four years on Death Row: Statesville, Menard, and finally
Pontiac. Just before being transferred to Pontiac I had a
dream. God was involved in it, a dream that our innocence
would come out. We had filed our appeal on that third trial.
You see, our lawyers had a witness that had been a friend
of Doe and Smith. This witness was prepared to testify that
we hadnt been involved but that Doe, her boyfriend Jim
Smith, and a tall black man had. Judge Maloney refused to
allow this testimony. Our lawyers read this into the record
at that third trial. We based our appeal on this testimony.
We still had no idea whether we had won our appeal or not.
So many men made their appeals and got rejected. We won that
appeal. They overturned the conviction and sent us back to
County.
Sometime after this, Thomas J. Maloney was convicted
of taking bribes in criminal cases. At his trial, witnesses
testified that he was tough on defendants who had not bribed
him in order to divert suspicion that he was taking bribes
in other cases.
No human being in America is supposed to be tried more than
once for the same offense. The catch is this: if there is
a mistrial then that rule doesnt apply. We had two mistrials,
which allowed them to try us three times and come up with
the conviction. After the conviction there is an appeal. We
won the appeal. This enabled them to try us again. There are
no words to paint this type of mess. I think it would take
the devil and his tribe to come up with the words for expressing
this.
They tried us for the fourth time and the jury came back six
to six. Mistrial. Here we go again.
The Fifth Trial
In the fifth trial a prosecuting attorney from Will County
came forward. The mans name was Falconer. It seems that
as a young law student he had worked with Jane Doe and did
babysitting for her children. Remember she was the states
star witness. Back then she had confessed to Falconer that
her boyfriend and another person had committed a crime; they
had robbed and killed these people. She said her boyfriend
was the one that did the shooting. She also told him that
they had two black men locked up for it, and she laughed.
At the time Falconer didnt believe her. But he came
across an article about our overturned trial in one of his
lawyer journals. He saw Does name and remembered her
story. He then called the lawyers that were representing Darby
and me. I was real leery about him. I thought this was another
treacherous trick. It took a while to convince me to allow
this man to testify. Our lawyers sent a third-party lawyer,
some investigators, and a clergyman to witness Falconers
testimony. They had it on tape, and I listened to it over
and over before I said yes. I had never heard of a states
attorney coming forward to testify for a defendant. But he
did come forth and he did testify.
If Falconer hadnt seen that article, who knows? Unless
God had another plan. But he did see it. They also convinced
me to take a bench trial [a trial before a judge rather than
a jury] because each time we had a jury we had a mistrial.
It was twelve minds or one. The judge is just one man making
this decision and hes a white man and were black
and they are accusing us of killing white people. I finally
said whatever is going to be is going to be. I was born and
I have to die just like everyone. We went with the judge.
Jim Smith came up and testified for the first time; Jane Doe
was nowhere in sight. They found out that the states
attorney paid her into the thousands of dollars for her testimony.
They had bought her new clothes and relocated her because
she said that she was in fear of her life. But were
the ones that were falsely accused and locked up.
I cant really express the painbut I know it destroyed
my family. My children grew up without a father. Some terrible
things happened to my youngest twin daughter. I cant
really express the painmy youngest twin daughter was
eleven years and eight days old was a guy twenty-six years
of age raped her for five hours. Tore her up. Another one
of my kids got shot. And I was locked up, unable to do anything.
Things have happened that I wont get over the rest of
my life. Worst of all is that my children and I dont
really know each other; we just know each other. I cant
look at a child of mine and sense there is something wrong
. . . and thats a bad thing.
Anyway, the testimony of Will County states attorney
Falconer and the fact that it wasnt our fingerprints
along with height difference was in our favor. Arthur Sheilds,
the witness who had changed his testimony so often, had died.
The state had found Jim Smith and cleaned him up. He came
to testify for the first time. I think the judge frightened
him when he said the states witnesses knew more about
the crime than the investigators had found out. I didnt
know anything, Darby Tillis didnt know anything, and
Earl Grant didnt know anything, but Smith and Doe did.
Then our lawyer asked the judge why they didnt take
Jim Smiths fingerprints. The states attorneys
got him out of there real fast.
So, that is the case. The judge found us innocentnot
guilty! And all that time wed been locked up. Nine years
in prison, four on Death Row. All that wed gone through.
Darby Tilliss daughter was also raped and shot. Its
a lot. A whole lot. And the stigma is still ours. We are earmarked
for the rest of our lives. I dont care what they say
about them taking it off the record. They cant take
it out of the paper. They cant take it out of peoples
minds. It was all on TV, in newspapers, magazines. We cant
remove lies that were put in print and photographs. You cant
do that. You cant take it out of peoples hearts.
My youngest daughter carried around my photograph, a couple
albums, three or four records, and a half-written letter to
show that her daddy was an entertainer, a singer. Not a murderer.
But parents would not allow their children to play with mine
because of what they had read. I think it had a lot to do
with my grandfathers heart attack, and my grandmother
. . . I never saw my grandparents ever again. I had four of
them left. I came back and had none.
My baby sister died two weeks after I got home. I never had
a chance to see her, except in the casket. Then my daddy died
and then my mother. Its still hard on me. Theres
not a day that goes by that I dont think about it. Not
one day. Thats about it. As far as feelings, I cant
describe my feelings to you, and I wouldnt dare tell
you that Im not bitter, because bitter cant express
it. Ill tell you this much: theres no amount of
money they could give me for what theyve done to me
and my family. And to this day they havent given me
one dime.
I try and get along the best I can. I look at people and I
dont hate them because of the color of their skin. I
dont hate anymore. I hated so bad when I was on Death
Row it almost killed me. I know I had knots in my stomach
as big as golf balls from the hatred. And I was told that
if I didnt get rid of that it was going to kill me.
God helped me to get rid of the hate, but it took a long time.
Not a day goes past that I dont have some feeling, some
memory about things that happened to me and my family during
that time.
First published in
Cornerstone (ISSN 0275-2743),
Vol. 30, Issue 121 (2001), pg. 10.
© 2001 Cornerstone Communications, Inc.
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